Drawing without an Aid

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Drawing without an Aid

Post by Buck » Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:29 am

My first Excalibur was the Phoenix which I purchased when they were first introduced. I vaguely remember attempting to cock by hand but honestly can’t recall if I was successful. I know that cocking a more modern excal without the rope or crank would be impossible for most everyone.

Does anyone recall drawing without aid ? If so which of the older models would that option be realistic possibility? I know that there are many factors such as the individual’s size and strength but I’m sure some models offered platforms with a fraction of today’s cocking effort.
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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by janesy » Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:35 am

I can cock my friend's exomax by hand without a rope
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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by BrotherRon » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:20 am

About the only thing I can cock without an aid is my BB gun :lol:
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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by janesy » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:36 am

BrotherRon wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:20 am
About the only thing I can cock without an aid is my BB gun :lol:
Try the rope on a 440 :thumbup: :sick: :crazy:
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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by Froghunter » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:44 am

Can’t do the Vixen because of finger pain! Maybe with gloves!🤷🏻‍♂️

I use the rope cocking aid!👍🏻

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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by Timbrhuntr » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:49 am

I used to cock my exomax with my hands when I first got it but then a buddy showed me his rope cocker and I been spoiled ever since. Micro 335 I tried a couple times but no way with out the rope cocker.

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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by BrotherRon » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:10 pm

janesy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:36 am
BrotherRon wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:20 am
About the only thing I can cock without an aid is my BB gun :lol:
Try the rope on a 440 :thumbup: :sick: :crazy:
I cocked the 380 with a rope one time, but could instantly feel my back complaining so I went with the 310.
I will be purchasing a BD330 very soon ;)
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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by bcbuckblaster » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:18 pm

I drew my Axiom by hand once, it was doable for me.

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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by Tom » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:10 pm

janesy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:35 am
I can cock my friend's exomax by hand without a rope
All the early crossbows were hand cocked. I can't remember which models started with the grove for rope cocking.

Hand cocking is more about technique and not so much about strength. My dad hand cocked his exomag well into his 70's and it took us kids a lot of convincing for him to get a rope cocker for when we practiced. I still prefer to hand cock the exomag because I find it easier (less action required and faster).

I guess I still like keeping things simple, why I like Excalibur.

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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by longbow joe » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:10 am

I can do my Phoenix, vixen, and lbex by hand and barely do my matrix 330
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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by hunter with MS » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:54 am

I used to but I rarely did I used the cocking rope as using it I kept the string straight and even . Now I use the charger crank as I am not strong enough to even use the rope .

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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by papa bear1 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:52 am

Can anyone cock the (Equinox) by hand. :think:

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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by Tom » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:28 am

papa bear1 wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:52 am
Can anyone cock the (Equinox) by hand. :think:

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I have hand cocked the highest poundage long limb excalibur crossbows. I wouldn't want to do a lot of practice with one hand cocking, but for hunting purposes, I could handle it.

I have hand cocked a 355, but it was "not fun" and a struggle. But in a pinch while out hunting if I had to I could do it.

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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by hunter with MS » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:08 am

most people when they hand cock a crossbow will not have the string even as one arm is stronger then the other . Hence shot going way to the right or left doesn't take much of the string being off to screw up the shot .

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Re: Drawing without an Aid

Post by Doe Master » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:19 am

Vixen was the first one with a cocking aid groove and also the first with a manual safety .
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