OT: Canadain Firearm Buy Back Program
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Weird. This one works on this end...
https://bcwf.bc.ca/billc-21/
https://bcwf.bc.ca/billc-21/
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Re: OT: Canadain Firearm Buy Back Program
IronNoggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:17 pmWeird. This one works on this end...
https://bcwf.bc.ca/billc-21/
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Liberals Extend Deadline Again for Their Failing Firearm-Confiscation Fantasy
Canada’s governing Liberal Party said today it will delay the deadline for its forced gun confiscations ordered in May 2020 until after the next election, almost guaranteeing the crackdown will fail.
https://thegunblog.ca/2023/10/11/liberals-extend-deadline-again-for-their-failing-firearm-confiscation-fantasy/
Canada’s governing Liberal Party said today it will delay the deadline for its forced gun confiscations ordered in May 2020 until after the next election, almost guaranteeing the crackdown will fail.
https://thegunblog.ca/2023/10/11/liberals-extend-deadline-again-for-their-failing-firearm-confiscation-fantasy/
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That way they will have someone else to blame for the collapse of their program.
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Liberals Target a Fraction of a Fraction
MP Raquel Dancho, Shadow Minister for Public Safety and Blaine Calkins, Shadow Minister for Hunting, Fishing and Conservation released the following statement:
"Today, the Liberal government quietly extended the amnesty period for complying with the May 2020 firearms ban to October 30, 2025.
This is critically important news for the two million trained, tested, and vetted Canadian firearms owners who Justin Trudeau has demonized for the past 8 years.
Make no mistake: Justin Trudeau and his Public Safety Ministers have promised to confiscate the firearms of millions of law-abiding Canadians and they have every intention of doing so.
This amnesty extension is an admission of Liberal incompetence, and that the Liberal government’s so-called buyback is a costly, bureaucratic boondoggle that will burn billions of taxpayer dollars for no public safety benefit whatsoever.
The date of the extended amnesty further demonstrates that Justin Trudeau plans to use Canadian hunters, farmers, and sports shooters as political props well into the next election.
Conservatives will continue to stand up for Canadian hunters, farmers, sport shooters, and Indigenous Canadians and all those who use firearms lawfully. We will tackle rising crime and gun violence by investing in frontline policing services, expanded border security, and youth diversion programs, and bringing in tough on crime measures that target criminals and gangsters. Canada's Conservatives are the only party that will implement the common sense firearms and public safety policies needed to bring home safe streets and respect law-abiding Canadians."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YG7ZWxUOxY
MP Raquel Dancho, Shadow Minister for Public Safety and Blaine Calkins, Shadow Minister for Hunting, Fishing and Conservation released the following statement:
"Today, the Liberal government quietly extended the amnesty period for complying with the May 2020 firearms ban to October 30, 2025.
This is critically important news for the two million trained, tested, and vetted Canadian firearms owners who Justin Trudeau has demonized for the past 8 years.
Make no mistake: Justin Trudeau and his Public Safety Ministers have promised to confiscate the firearms of millions of law-abiding Canadians and they have every intention of doing so.
This amnesty extension is an admission of Liberal incompetence, and that the Liberal government’s so-called buyback is a costly, bureaucratic boondoggle that will burn billions of taxpayer dollars for no public safety benefit whatsoever.
The date of the extended amnesty further demonstrates that Justin Trudeau plans to use Canadian hunters, farmers, and sports shooters as political props well into the next election.
Conservatives will continue to stand up for Canadian hunters, farmers, sport shooters, and Indigenous Canadians and all those who use firearms lawfully. We will tackle rising crime and gun violence by investing in frontline policing services, expanded border security, and youth diversion programs, and bringing in tough on crime measures that target criminals and gangsters. Canada's Conservatives are the only party that will implement the common sense firearms and public safety policies needed to bring home safe streets and respect law-abiding Canadians."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YG7ZWxUOxY
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Re: OT: Canadain Firearm Buy Back Program
Bill C-21 is now being studied by the Senate Standing Committee on National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs. This committee will begin hearing on the bill on October 23rd. The committee will also accept briefs on the bill.
May I suggest that everyone submit a brief about the bill to the committee, perhaps sending it to each of the members of the committee. Their names and email addresses can be found here:
https://sencanada.ca/en/committees/SECD/44-1
May I suggest that everyone submit a brief about the bill to the committee, perhaps sending it to each of the members of the committee. Their names and email addresses can be found here:
https://sencanada.ca/en/committees/SECD/44-1
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Re: OT: Canadain Firearm Buy Back Program
So we have another 2 years to take up magnet fishing?
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Boating accidents, remember yours?
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Liberals extend gun ban amnesty for second time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC6ideOu1SQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC6ideOu1SQ
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Learned my lesson that day.
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Canadian Gun Grab Delayed As Amnesty Is Extended -- A Lawyer Explains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gqVSjGJM_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gqVSjGJM_A
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We Need a Serious Debate on Bill C-21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaHJMM1So4U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaHJMM1So4U
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Fatal bear attack spurs conversation on guns for self-defence in national parks
A double fatal grizzly bear attack in Banff National Park emphasizes the need to review the ban on guns for self-defence in Canada’s national parks, a firearm rights group says.
National Parks wildlife regulations forbid firearm use in Banff, despite risks posed to hikers and campers by animals such as bears, cougars and coyotes.
The Sept. 29 deaths of campers Doug Inglis and Jenny Gusse aren’t the first and won’t be the last, according to Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights spokesperson Tracey Wilson.
“It amplifies the necessity for Canadians to be able to protect themselves against wildlife,” she says. “We have the tools and the technology to protect ourselves. We just don’t have the legal ability to do so.”
According to Wilson, things could have “absolutely” ended differently if the couple had firearms instead of bear spray, which failed to deter the bear from killing them or their dog.
While some view the national park gun ban as being about wildlife protection, Wilson noted laws against poaching and hunting already exist. If someone were to break one of these laws, Wilson argues, the government would throw the book at them.
“But to just ban the use and carry of a firearm in a national park is a danger to human life,” she says.
Inglis and Jenny Gusse, along with their border collie, were discovered by the Wildlife Human Attack response team with an empty canister of bear deterrent spray nearby.
Despite being labelled as ‘bear spray,’ Wilson says this deterrent would be more effective against a dog or a smaller animal.
“A hungry grizzly bear is not going to be stopped by bear spray,” she says. “When you’ve got a giant charging grizzly coming at you, a can of bear spray is like throwing marbles in a war.”
The Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights advocates for gun owners in an increasingly hostile regulatory climate. In May 2020, the federal government prohibited 1500 variants of what it called “military-style assault weapons,” though many of the guns on the list were used by hunters.
The government put in place a two year amnesty period, which was renewed in 2022 and again this week and now is set to lapse in 2025.
“Canadians know it’s not licensed gun owners, hunters, and trappers out there shooting up the streets of Toronto,” says Wilson.
She believes that the Conservative government, should they win the next election, would take a far more focused approach to targeting actual crime, violence, and gun smuggling instead of gun owners.
“I think you would see a total 180 on the way things are done on the public safety file. I think with the rising crime and violence across Canada, Canadians are ready for it.”
National parks are meant to preserve the land and wildlife within them. However, if humans are allowed to enter these areas, Wilson says, “it only makes sense to me that they should have the ability to protect their own lives should they find themselves in that unfortunate circumstance.”
The prohibition doesn’t apply to superintendents, park wardens, or peace officers, which Wilson suggests is a recognition by the government that firearms serve an important purpose.
“Self-defence against wildlife in remote situations should be a right for every Canadian.”
https://tnc.news/2023/10/13/fatal-bear-attack-conversation-guns-self-defence-national-parks2/
Fatal bear attack spurs conversation on guns for self-defence in national parks
A double fatal grizzly bear attack in Banff National Park emphasizes the need to review the ban on guns for self-defence in Canada’s national parks, a firearm rights group says.
National Parks wildlife regulations forbid firearm use in Banff, despite risks posed to hikers and campers by animals such as bears, cougars and coyotes.
The Sept. 29 deaths of campers Doug Inglis and Jenny Gusse aren’t the first and won’t be the last, according to Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights spokesperson Tracey Wilson.
“It amplifies the necessity for Canadians to be able to protect themselves against wildlife,” she says. “We have the tools and the technology to protect ourselves. We just don’t have the legal ability to do so.”
According to Wilson, things could have “absolutely” ended differently if the couple had firearms instead of bear spray, which failed to deter the bear from killing them or their dog.
While some view the national park gun ban as being about wildlife protection, Wilson noted laws against poaching and hunting already exist. If someone were to break one of these laws, Wilson argues, the government would throw the book at them.
“But to just ban the use and carry of a firearm in a national park is a danger to human life,” she says.
Inglis and Jenny Gusse, along with their border collie, were discovered by the Wildlife Human Attack response team with an empty canister of bear deterrent spray nearby.
Despite being labelled as ‘bear spray,’ Wilson says this deterrent would be more effective against a dog or a smaller animal.
“A hungry grizzly bear is not going to be stopped by bear spray,” she says. “When you’ve got a giant charging grizzly coming at you, a can of bear spray is like throwing marbles in a war.”
The Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights advocates for gun owners in an increasingly hostile regulatory climate. In May 2020, the federal government prohibited 1500 variants of what it called “military-style assault weapons,” though many of the guns on the list were used by hunters.
The government put in place a two year amnesty period, which was renewed in 2022 and again this week and now is set to lapse in 2025.
“Canadians know it’s not licensed gun owners, hunters, and trappers out there shooting up the streets of Toronto,” says Wilson.
She believes that the Conservative government, should they win the next election, would take a far more focused approach to targeting actual crime, violence, and gun smuggling instead of gun owners.
“I think you would see a total 180 on the way things are done on the public safety file. I think with the rising crime and violence across Canada, Canadians are ready for it.”
National parks are meant to preserve the land and wildlife within them. However, if humans are allowed to enter these areas, Wilson says, “it only makes sense to me that they should have the ability to protect their own lives should they find themselves in that unfortunate circumstance.”
The prohibition doesn’t apply to superintendents, park wardens, or peace officers, which Wilson suggests is a recognition by the government that firearms serve an important purpose.
“Self-defence against wildlife in remote situations should be a right for every Canadian.”
https://tnc.news/2023/10/13/fatal-bear-attack-conversation-guns-self-defence-national-parks2/
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Solomon Friedman - The Gun Ban Court Battle and Where we Stand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqidgUVpF0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqidgUVpF0o
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Trudeau's gun ban extension shows it was always about politics
PM banned 1,500 types of guns more than three years ago but just announced owners can keep them for at least two more years
On May 1, 2020, Justin Trudeau told the Canadian people he was banning the legal possession of thousands of legally owned guns to keep our streets safe.
Last week, his government extended the amnesty for legal gun owners to keep those very same rifles and shotguns until Oct. 30, 2025.
For those keeping track, that means the government has no plans to deal with the guns they said were so dangerous they must be seized until five and half years after they banned them.
Not that any thinking person believed that Trudeau’s announcement in May 2020 would actually improve public safety. As usual, Trudeau was using a tragedy to play politics with legal gun owners, something those of us paying attention had seen again and again.
...
The fact is that of the 1,500 types of guns he banned that day through regulation, there was no history of gun crime with them. They were rifles and shotguns used for hunting and for target shooting, but the guns belonging to licensed owners were not the crime guns most people were concerned about.
Yet, here we are, almost three and a half years later and those guns that Trudeau said were so dangerous they must be confiscated are still in a gun safe in your neighbour’s basement. That is where they will stay for another two years as the feds continue to try to figure out how to confiscate them in their so-called “buy-back” program.
The feds have asked the Canadian military if they could help and have been turned down, they’ve asked Canada Post and been rejected as well. The RCMP doesn’t have the ability, money or human resources to carry out such a program and provincial police forces in Ontario and Quebec aren’t about to do the work of the federal government.
The bottom line is, three and half years ago, Justin Trudeau said he was banning these guns to improve public safety. The guns remain where they were and aren’t going anywhere anytime soon, until after the next election, and public safety has not improved.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeaus-gun-ban-extension-shows-it-was-always-about-politics
PM banned 1,500 types of guns more than three years ago but just announced owners can keep them for at least two more years
On May 1, 2020, Justin Trudeau told the Canadian people he was banning the legal possession of thousands of legally owned guns to keep our streets safe.
Last week, his government extended the amnesty for legal gun owners to keep those very same rifles and shotguns until Oct. 30, 2025.
For those keeping track, that means the government has no plans to deal with the guns they said were so dangerous they must be seized until five and half years after they banned them.
Not that any thinking person believed that Trudeau’s announcement in May 2020 would actually improve public safety. As usual, Trudeau was using a tragedy to play politics with legal gun owners, something those of us paying attention had seen again and again.
...
The fact is that of the 1,500 types of guns he banned that day through regulation, there was no history of gun crime with them. They were rifles and shotguns used for hunting and for target shooting, but the guns belonging to licensed owners were not the crime guns most people were concerned about.
Yet, here we are, almost three and a half years later and those guns that Trudeau said were so dangerous they must be confiscated are still in a gun safe in your neighbour’s basement. That is where they will stay for another two years as the feds continue to try to figure out how to confiscate them in their so-called “buy-back” program.
The feds have asked the Canadian military if they could help and have been turned down, they’ve asked Canada Post and been rejected as well. The RCMP doesn’t have the ability, money or human resources to carry out such a program and provincial police forces in Ontario and Quebec aren’t about to do the work of the federal government.
The bottom line is, three and half years ago, Justin Trudeau said he was banning these guns to improve public safety. The guns remain where they were and aren’t going anywhere anytime soon, until after the next election, and public safety has not improved.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeaus-gun-ban-extension-shows-it-was-always-about-politics
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