Would you like more accuracy from your Excalibur?

GREYWOLF · Post by **GREYWOLF** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:27 pm

I too would like to know a rough price range , and get on the purchase list GREYWOLF

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:30 pm

Sounds like you guys are interested.

I know I mentioned it earlier in this thread, but what is your opinion of the same crossbow with a different main frame that is not fitted to shoot arrows, but fitted to shoot lead or steel shot. Purpose for is for the fun and challenge of shooting trap (clay pigeons) with it and to take it dove hunting as well?

The shot is held captive in an enclosed wad or sabot (molded nylon). When you shoot and as the sabot leaves the front of the track, the airfoil shape on the front of the sabot or wad allows the 2 halves to separate so the shot can continue on in a symetrical pattern. The sabot flutters 15-20 in front of you so you can pick them up and reload them. Costs 1-1/2 cents per shot. I have a prototype of this as well and have videos of shooting trap. When you get a good hit, it really looks like a shotgun was used. Also, being that the shot is only going 1/4 the speed of shotgun pellets, yoou can easily see your pattern and adjust accordingly for the next shot. You must be quick. It really sharpens you up.

What do yawl think?

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:34 pm

Greywolf:

I am figuring somewhere around $550-$600 retail.

GREYWOLF · Post by **GREYWOLF** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:44 pm

That sounds like a real fair price, I have been folowing this therd, for a while now ,and I like your dedication to this bow. It might be a real winner ,that trap idea seams cool ,Iwould like to see some more about it to realy understand how it all works GREYWOLF

Hi5 · Post by **Hi5** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:46 pm

Heck, designer, I had enough problem with a shotgun when I shot trap!

What might sell would be a reusable shot capsule that could be fired from a Xbow that was rigged to shoot bolts. Shooting a grouse with an expensive carbon bolt and expensive broadhead is not a cost effective proposition.

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:53 pm

Hi5

I have though about it and because of the design of the track to shoot bolts is such a weird extrusion, there is not a lot of room to fit a wad or sabot filled with shot in there. There are aerodynamic considerations for the correct seperation of the wad so the shot is in a uniform pattern. Have done one heck of a lot of testing. Even got blue in the face. Sorry, that was probably something I ate.

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:29 pm

Regarding second post on this page, I really would like to know what you guys think about the shotbow concept. It's mainly for competition trap shooting and for dove hunting. Also have sabot for 12 darts for goose and pheasant hunting. Let me know. Thanks.

BUCKSHOT · Post by **BUCKSHOT** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:24 am

I think that your concept is very neat!
I personnally enjoy trying things that are different and beneficial as far as new concepts go!
I would like to ask how you retain the arrow against the string?
Also are there any ill effects created due to the additional weight?

Your concept could be applied in many fashions, being a projectile you could use many methods to propel your arrow, but I do like the application!

It would be easy for you to build a rail assembly prototype which could be attached to a wooden stock!
I understand how using existing materials to build a prototype, is much easier in many cases, but I see that you are applying and proving a concept!
Being limited to the existing frame and design provided by Excalibur is not something I can see you doing! (Or having to do!)

I think you have a great thing going there and wish you the best of good fortune in your endeavour!
Thinking out side of the box is something more of us need to do!

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:07 am

BUCKSHOT

There is a spring loaded lever inside the trigger assembly that holds the back of the arrow. The back of this lever has a place for your thumb to operate it. It works very well. Just by looking at the postion of this thumb lever, it is easy to see that an arrow is loaded and ready to go.

The only increase in weight (on a production model) would be 3 to 4 ounces at the most. The riser will be lighter because it will be 1" shorter than the original.

Also, thanks for the complement.

Masterhunter · Post by **Masterhunter** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:27 am

I feel that both ideas are very creative and I believe they should sell very well.

I'd love to have it and as far as the shotbow it seems like it would be quite a challange and also a lot of fun. I'd like to be able to shoot the shot because its cheaper and so quiet and what a great way to shoot small gane. You don't have to worry about losing the bolt. TERRIFIC IDEAS and best of luck to you!!!

Newbi · Post by **Newbi** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:22 pm

Just wondering if the only way to "unload" would be to shoot it, or is there a method for removing the bolt before decocking?

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:50 pm

Newbi:

To unload the arrow is simple. You merely point the bow down and push the thumb button that is at the top-rear of the trigger assembly housing. The arrow slides out. Then un-cock the bow the way you normally do.

Newbi · Post by **Newbi** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:43 pm

Thanks Designer 2 seems that you have thought of everything.

Hi5 · Post by **Hi5** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:20 pm

Well, Designer, what have you done in the past year?

You had some interesting ideas. Any closer to production?

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:35 pm

Hi 5

I am closer. Working on a new crossbow as well. Much faster than anything out there. Because it is so fast, it should only be used for long range target shooting. Or for the Navy Seals and Army Rangers. Ha.

I am working with people outside the archery industry because people in this industry do not know a good thing when they see it !! Really, they are afraid of the culture change.

Thanks.

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