
Good Luck Anthony, glass half full buddy!
https://www.dec.ny.gov/about/259.html
.....and mind you, there are ONLY TWO conservation officers in the entire county.Hi5 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:19 pmSomebody else already pointed out that if you are hunting on your own land, it would be unlikely that any enforcement officer is going to look very closely at your bow. If crossbows are legal, and you don't have some other accessory attached to it that would make it obviously a serious violation, why would anyone look further? If night hunting is illegal for you, and you have a military grade night sight, that changes everything.
I seriously doubt that any enforcement officer is going to carry with him a list of all available makes and models of crossbow and their draw weights. I guess that information is just a cell phone call away--if enforcement agencies are really that focused on such an issue. Maybe an enforcement officer who in general hates archery hunters, or hates crossbows in particular would be motivated to THINK about the issue enough to enforce that rule. Maybe. But on your own land?
I don't know the enforcement attitude in your locale. I suspect though, that it would be a lot like enforcing speed limit laws. If you are travelling 70 mph in a 65 mph zone, what are the chances of getting a ticket? 75 in a 65? 80 in a 65? You could get ticketed in each example I offered, but you know minor breaches don't get tickets-- unless you make comments about the officer's mother, or some other motivational remark.
If this was a big enforcement issue, you would likely see officers carrying some sort of scales with them so they could test every bow right on site. After all, limbs could weaken with age and become "legal", or, people could switch labeling.
Yeah I agree with this. The decision is yours, as is taking the consequences of the decision. Totally up to you.janesy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:05 pmI'm friends with a couple CO's. And I can tell you first hand, they know more than you think they do. They know who hunts where, where they live, what they drive, who they hunt with. And they don't forget
Its their job. And most of them are very good at it. Most of their snitches are every day hunters just like yourselves. And half the time they don't even know they've just snitched on someone else. Its just conversation.
One thing to consider, is that someone owned that land before you did... And who knows what they did or didn't do for that matter.
Point is, if you want to push the limits of the law, be prepared to take what comes your way.
.....gonna pick up a GRIZZ2 at Cabella's and throw my other Excal's in the garbage!nchunterkw wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:13 amYeah I agree with this. The decision is yours, as is taking the consequences of the decision. Totally up to you.janesy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:05 pmI'm friends with a couple CO's. And I can tell you first hand, they know more than you think they do. They know who hunts where, where they live, what they drive, who they hunt with. And they don't forget
Its their job. And most of them are very good at it. Most of their snitches are every day hunters just like yourselves. And half the time they don't even know they've just snitched on someone else. Its just conversation.
One thing to consider, is that someone owned that land before you did... And who knows what they did or didn't do for that matter.
Point is, if you want to push the limits of the law, be prepared to take what comes your way.
To me, it doesn't make sense to risk possibly losing the ability to hunt your own property over what is most certainly a STUPID law. Especially when you sacrifice almost nothing using an Excal with a 200lb draw. In the meantime, start reaching out and see what it takes to get the law changed. No doubt others feel as you do and there is probably some effort in this direction. Excal (and other manufacturers) may even help lobby as it benefits them too.
Anthony, a quick Google search brought up a facebook group called "New York Crossbow Coalition".amythntr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:24 am.....having purchased a nice parcel of land in T.P.R. of NY my intent is to not only rifle hunt but to also CB hunt on the property....NYS has an archaic law of a 200lb draw weight maximum.....obviously, substantially all Excalibur CB's are well above this maximum. I know I could get a wide body older model....I'm 5x5 and really do not want a 5x5 crossbow no matter how great they are.
.....I do not want to put anyone on the spot wit a response, so you can respond in a PM if need be.....
.....the question is, "How do you handle this archaic law?" "Do you just ignore it?" "What CB do you actually use in NYS?"
.....Again, if you want, just PM me with your response and I will also share what I have been told!
Exactly!!!