What Excalibur to buy?
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i decided to get the exomax and have been very happy with it. just make sure you dont forget your rope cocker or your hands will get a little sore after a few shots...
i like to have the power there if i ever need it. a faster arrow will shoot flatter giving you a little bit more forgiveness with range estimation. using an online calculator i figured this out.
365gr at 345fps the bolt drops -
20yards - 6"
30yards - 15"
40yards - 27"
a slower bow shooting the same arrow at 300fps -
20yards - 8"
30yards - 20"
40yards - 34"
you can see that the faster bow shoots quite a bit flatter and to me every bit helps when it comes to hunting
i like to have the power there if i ever need it. a faster arrow will shoot flatter giving you a little bit more forgiveness with range estimation. using an online calculator i figured this out.
365gr at 345fps the bolt drops -
20yards - 6"
30yards - 15"
40yards - 27"
a slower bow shooting the same arrow at 300fps -
20yards - 8"
30yards - 20"
40yards - 34"
you can see that the faster bow shoots quite a bit flatter and to me every bit helps when it comes to hunting
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I know what you mean . I love my Exocet 165, but I also messed up 2 opportunities over 2 seasons due to misjudging distances in the 25-35 yard range. Even though I hung yardage ribbons, deer sometimes showed up in the strangest places . The best thing I ever did was buy myself a rangefinder.ch312 wrote:you can see that the faster bow shoots quite a bit flatter and to me every bit helps when it comes to hunting
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Arrow drop doesn't concern me. When the scope is adjusted correctly, and I do my job, all arrows hit their marks no matter the distance. I also feel speed is over-rated, so I use much heavier than the minimum 350 gr. arrows.
Speed never impressed me much. I strive for speeds between 300 - 310fps. I've found that above those speeds accuracy decreases. Also, by doing so, my Excaliburs not only look, but also perform as good as the day I bought them.
In case you're wondering. Yes I too, owned an Exomax briefly. I swapped my Phoenix's rail with a friend's Exomax rail. We were both happy. He got a crossbow he could use. I got a crossbow that I sold for more money than I would have gotten selling my Phoenix.
Speed never impressed me much. I strive for speeds between 300 - 310fps. I've found that above those speeds accuracy decreases. Also, by doing so, my Excaliburs not only look, but also perform as good as the day I bought them.
In case you're wondering. Yes I too, owned an Exomax briefly. I swapped my Phoenix's rail with a friend's Exomax rail. We were both happy. He got a crossbow he could use. I got a crossbow that I sold for more money than I would have gotten selling my Phoenix.
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I think you should try the phoenix also... LOL
I love mine, and 35 yards is a cinch with it; it is pretty quiet, the serving does not seem to wear very much and it is more than enough .. I got the rail to make it a 200 pounder... when ? I do not know.. why ? in case I start shooting larger farther or just targets with a rope cocker, I guess..
admittedly the 200 is faster flatter and not that hard to cock with the rope I hear; it would have to go some to make me like it more than the phoenix, though...
Maybe since you have it down to two models You had better not try the phoenixx... just slow you down... lol
or pick one bow but buy several rails... decision easier...
dk
I love mine, and 35 yards is a cinch with it; it is pretty quiet, the serving does not seem to wear very much and it is more than enough .. I got the rail to make it a 200 pounder... when ? I do not know.. why ? in case I start shooting larger farther or just targets with a rope cocker, I guess..
admittedly the 200 is faster flatter and not that hard to cock with the rope I hear; it would have to go some to make me like it more than the phoenix, though...
Maybe since you have it down to two models You had better not try the phoenixx... just slow you down... lol
or pick one bow but buy several rails... decision easier...
dk
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I did a lot of research prior to my purchase. I first selected Excalibur, as I believe in simple, and moreso in quality, in this respect, I was right, and got both. I chose the Exomax for speed, I'm not shy about it. Everyone here will tell you it doesn't matter for clean kills out to say, 30 yards. And I agree with that, but I want the flattest trajectory I can have, and I want it with a heavier arrow as well. I get a quieter bow, flat trajectory, and plenty of punch, none of which you can have too much of.
Sometimes the shot isn't placed perfectly, as much as we try to make it so. When that happens, kinetic energy counts more than ever. If I need the arrow to pound through a shoulder blade, it will. Sometimes a nervous buck will react very quickly to the sound. Most will say he won't be able to get out of the way, and I agree, but he may move a little, and that may cause a bad hit. Therefore, speed does matter. This may be splitting hairs, but when the buck of a lifetime stands before me, I want to know I have the extra edge to put him on the wall.
I plan to hunt bear & boars as well, and who knows, maybe moose & elk someday. I know the entire Excalibur line will take anything on the continent, but again, I want the extra zip, it gives me confidence.
Sometimes the shot isn't placed perfectly, as much as we try to make it so. When that happens, kinetic energy counts more than ever. If I need the arrow to pound through a shoulder blade, it will. Sometimes a nervous buck will react very quickly to the sound. Most will say he won't be able to get out of the way, and I agree, but he may move a little, and that may cause a bad hit. Therefore, speed does matter. This may be splitting hairs, but when the buck of a lifetime stands before me, I want to know I have the extra edge to put him on the wall.
I plan to hunt bear & boars as well, and who knows, maybe moose & elk someday. I know the entire Excalibur line will take anything on the continent, but again, I want the extra zip, it gives me confidence.
I have owned the ExoMax and Equinox and while I love them there are drawbacks for sure.Like mentioned before reduced serving life,it can be a B!T(H to cock and if you suffer from the ailments some of us here do to varying degres then it gets worse from there.I have thrown my back out many times after a day of shooting.
Yes,it is the fastest.
Yes,it hits the hardest.
Would I buy it again?
NO!
I will drop to the 200 pound model next.
It is becoming just to dificult to shoot.
Then again!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes,it is the fastest.
Yes,it hits the hardest.
Would I buy it again?
NO!
I will drop to the 200 pound model next.
It is becoming just to dificult to shoot.
Then again!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Exomax & Equinox
Saxman, can't argue there, you are right about those things for sure. I guess the point really is this. Excalibur (and all brands) make several models for varying tastes. I find it funny that people who are shooting slower bows will criticize fast shooters as though there is something wrong with that. How many times have I read the words "thats all you need" Well, you can say that about almost anything. We could all drive Chevettes, thats all you need. We could all eat beans & rice everyday, thats all you need.
I chose speed, not because I'm a kid, not because my ego made me. I chose it because its a valuable hunting tool, period.
I chose speed, not because I'm a kid, not because my ego made me. I chose it because its a valuable hunting tool, period.
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I agree with Exomaxer, flatter trajectory is better. It takes alot of the yardage guess work out. I had to give up compound bows, because I have bad arthritis in both my sholders. I read a lot about crossbows, in general, and found a useful piece of information. It is on Excalibur's website, it's called arrow ballistics. Check out the difference between 350 fps and 325 fps. The arrow drop is signifagant, and the kinetic energy is drastic. At 300 it's even more. Well I got the Exomax, and even with my bad sholders, I have no trouble cocking it with the rope cocker. Now with out it it's harder, but I can do it. But like everyone else said, you will like any Excalibur bow you buy.
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Tact-Zone scope
18" Diablo's
150gr Boltcutters
Danny's Flemish String
Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers
(2009) EXOMAX 350
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20" Fire Bolts
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Ground Pounder Mount
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Re: Exomax & Equinox
Well said my young friend.Exomaxer wrote:Saxman, can't argue there, you are right about those things for sure. I guess the point really is this. Excalibur (and all brands) make several models for varying tastes. I find it funny that people who are shooting slower bows will criticize fast shooters as though there is something wrong with that. How many times have I read the words "thats all you need" Well, you can say that about almost anything. We could all drive Chevettes, thats all you need. We could all eat beans & rice everyday, thats all you need.
I chose speed, not because I'm a kid, not because my ego made me. I chose it because its a valuable hunting tool, period.
go out and shoot all the excal's you can find and buy the one that is RIGHT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!
By golly if you can cock the 225 models,go for it.
You WONT be disappointed.
While I am having phisical trouble I can still get it cocked and I know I have the power and the speed in abundance to get it done.
Scott
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Take a kid hunting
They don't remember their best day of watching TV
Excalibur Equinox
TruGlo Red/Green Dot
NGSS Absorber by NewGuy
Custom strings by BOO
Groundpounder Top Mount
ACF Member - 2011