Letting Them Walk
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Letting Them Walk
Ever since I have been hunting with my 405 I have been seeing small bucks and a few small does. I had a chance to shoot a big doe right at dark yesterday evening at last light but let her walk due to family obligations. Could have gotten by with skipping out if I would have shot one of the bigger bucks I have trail camera pictures of, but not a doe. The Alabama rifle season started last Saturday but I will continue to carry the 405 until I get a chance to try it out.Wish me luck.
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Re: Letting Them Walk
Good luck!
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Buggy Bumpers
Gold Tip Laser 4 Arrows with Swhacker 125 Heads
Miller Quiver Mount
Leupold Shotgun Scope (Miller)
Flemish String
Micro 355 Tact-zone Package, soon to be modded.
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Re: Letting Them Walk
I let all my small Bucks walk, but all my neightbors kill every thing they see wid antlers. I do kill Doe's to fill my freezer
Re: Letting Them Walk
Thought this was going to be a really deep thread about what constitutes a"shooter".
Good luck!
Good luck!
Re: Letting Them Walk
That makes 2 of us.vixenmaster wrote:I let all my small Bucks walk, but all my neightbors kill every thing they see wid antlers. I do kill Doe's to fill my freezer
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be safe in all you do
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known as doe bow
vixenmaster custom string
swacker bhs, 2/1/4" cut 120 grn.
xx75 Easton 2219,s
firebolt arrows
S5 pads
if it ain't broke don't fix it
be safe in all you do
see ya in the woods
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Re: Letting Them Walk
Hang in there!!!! Good luck!!!
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Re: Letting Them Walk
Mature body size is all I look for. We don't have many real big racks in this area. The older they get helps with the rack size though.
Re: Letting Them Walk
I'm chasing a ghost this season. I've let three walk so far.
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Re: Letting Them Walk
Nice you left small ones live.Here in pa you can only shoot Buck with 3 points in my area on 1 side and 4 in another area...I wish my area was raised to 4 points per side.
You get nicer buck 3 years old and doe are bred by mature Buck which PGC says is important...This is 2 year I did not get buck in 53 years or so with bow ,2 years in a row not good..lol..
May hunt leased land next year do to all hunters ruining my hunt not that I do not see Buck...Its not good ...I am taking up coyote hunting again we trapped 2 last week ...
You get nicer buck 3 years old and doe are bred by mature Buck which PGC says is important...This is 2 year I did not get buck in 53 years or so with bow ,2 years in a row not good..lol..
May hunt leased land next year do to all hunters ruining my hunt not that I do not see Buck...Its not good ...I am taking up coyote hunting again we trapped 2 last week ...
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Re: Letting Them Walk
Good job trapping the coyotes. They overrun this area as well. Used to be a buck a day here from October 15 start of bow season until the end of January the end of gun season. The last few years we could kill a doe a day as well. Now it is 3 bucks a year, one 4 points on one side or better. 5 does a year. Hope this helps get a better age class and bigger antlers. Very little agriculture and poor soil doesn't help.
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Re: Letting Them Walk
Just my two cents on the "newbie" subject.
Shoot what you can for practice.
An accurate first time crossbow in the hands of a lifetime rifle hunter can have a hell of a learning curve. One can be real cocky at first thinking you just put them crosshairs behind the shoulder and squeezing off because of how well you shot the bag.
I've found you need to:
Be aware of elevation, shoot a bit high, visualize that arrow exit point.
Strive to shoot further back from that shoulder seam, this gives you some space to avoid a shoulder hit.
You better have a range finder or length of rope to mark yardage because this is an exact science (my biggest problem).
Strive to keep it inside 30 yards until you have all your T's crossed and I's dotted.
Don't take a quartering to shot, it ain't purdy!
Don't shoot through the shoulder pinning his arm to his body, it ain't purdy either.
Maybe just keep them cross lung shots as much as possible.
Don't do headshots with target points unless you are exactly 20 yards or wherever you are zero'd at.
When that monster pops out, start from the beginning of this list again, after you forget it all.
Shoot what you can for practice.
An accurate first time crossbow in the hands of a lifetime rifle hunter can have a hell of a learning curve. One can be real cocky at first thinking you just put them crosshairs behind the shoulder and squeezing off because of how well you shot the bag.
I've found you need to:
Be aware of elevation, shoot a bit high, visualize that arrow exit point.
Strive to shoot further back from that shoulder seam, this gives you some space to avoid a shoulder hit.
You better have a range finder or length of rope to mark yardage because this is an exact science (my biggest problem).
Strive to keep it inside 30 yards until you have all your T's crossed and I's dotted.
Don't take a quartering to shot, it ain't purdy!
Don't shoot through the shoulder pinning his arm to his body, it ain't purdy either.
Maybe just keep them cross lung shots as much as possible.
Don't do headshots with target points unless you are exactly 20 yards or wherever you are zero'd at.
When that monster pops out, start from the beginning of this list again, after you forget it all.
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Re: Letting Them Walk
Thanks for the advice. Very few monsters around here to worry about. Just waiting for mature deer. I have hunted with a vertical bow for years and am aware of shot placement. Shoulder problems caused me to try something a little different. I am currently in the stand and have let 3 spikes and a small doe walk. All offered shots inside of 40 yards except the doe. She never came out of the thick brush.
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Re: Letting Them Walk
A touch of frost has heightened your awareness and your heart steadily beats in anticipation. Your senses are suddenly alert to the movement on the forest floor and you realize that the moment of truth is at hand.
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Re: Letting Them Walk
I bought an Excalibur Equinox this summer and I've been very impressed with it. Shot 3 mature does so far this season. It has 225 pound draw weight and it is awesome!
But I've also been wondering about the 405. Would it shoot hard enough to go right through a shoulder blade? I know there are so many variables: arrow weight, broadhead weight, mechanical v. fixed blades, etc. I shoot 125 grain mechanicals and total arrow weight is just over 400.
Yesterday morning I had a pretty big 9 point buck in the crosshairs at 13 yards. But it was a quartering-to angle and I didn't want to take that shot. I'm hunting in a suburban area. So, they need to go down quickly when I shoot or there could be real big problems if it dies on other property.
In the past, in the woods, I've hit shoulders with arrows with poor results... And I've also shot right through them with guns.
What about the 405? Anybody have shoulder shot experience with it? And what are your recommendations?
I know I made a good decision to not take that shot yesterday morning. But I still keep replaying it over and over in my mind!
But I've also been wondering about the 405. Would it shoot hard enough to go right through a shoulder blade? I know there are so many variables: arrow weight, broadhead weight, mechanical v. fixed blades, etc. I shoot 125 grain mechanicals and total arrow weight is just over 400.
Yesterday morning I had a pretty big 9 point buck in the crosshairs at 13 yards. But it was a quartering-to angle and I didn't want to take that shot. I'm hunting in a suburban area. So, they need to go down quickly when I shoot or there could be real big problems if it dies on other property.
In the past, in the woods, I've hit shoulders with arrows with poor results... And I've also shot right through them with guns.
What about the 405? Anybody have shoulder shot experience with it? And what are your recommendations?
I know I made a good decision to not take that shot yesterday morning. But I still keep replaying it over and over in my mind!
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