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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by flightattendant100 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:31 am

Goose52 wrote:
flightattendant100 wrote:
onequillkid wrote:My son and daughter have both shot there 1st deer with excaliburs and factory scopes. So that makes a total of 17 deer that went in our freezer with excaliburs and factory scopes since 09. The scopes aren't the best but they do work fine.
Until they don't...... :(
so if ur scope has worked well since 09 why would it suddenly stop working as long as you don't drop it from ur tree stand, bang it on a tree truck, or bathe it in a river? i expect my truck to run great until it doesn't but with the wear & tear, moving parts etc that's understandable. i had the reticle on a cheap tasco rifle scope fall apart but i had it a few years and besides bumping it a coupla times there's a lot of recoil involved. does the firing of an xbow impact the scope?

not trying to be a smart a$$ here, just asking. what could go wrong? seal leak? dial use wears something out? only had my excal for a year but i'm satisfied with the twilight scope that came with it. until i'm not, i guess.

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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by onequillkid » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:51 am

Goose52, I feel the same way you do. So let me get this right everyone should have a backup Excalibur for each Excalibur in house or extra limbs for each. When hunting you should carry a stringer and extra string, I thought I was seeing a pattern here so I have 2 vari zones, a lumi zone, and a tact zone in my safe for backup.

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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by wabi » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:49 am

Schott wrote: your answer is fine that's what I want honest opinions don't sugar coat it the only thing I know about crossbows is that I want a excalibur I'm looking at a matrix 350 SE $550 with free shipping from what I have been reading on different forums its a good price for that bow have any opinion on it, thank you
I do not have an opinion on the Matrix or Micro models, as I still use an old Phoenix. :shock:
Have I had problems, yes. I've replaced limbs twice and went through a couple scopes but it still puts arrows in one hole if I do my part. The limb issues were cosmetic (splinters) and did not put it out of action. I was able to keep hunting and exchange them after the season ended, but I did lose all confidence in the scopes. No way to know if, when, or why POI was going to shift. Like I said, Leupold cured those problems!
I see no reason to avoid any of the newer models, I think they have the initial problems solved with them, so if it is a good deal dollar wise I'd say go for it!
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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by Boo » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:18 am

Sproul, i think you mean that the scope does have parallax. Parallax is what could put a shot off at longer distances with higher magnification scopes if your eye is not centered in the rear eye piece. All optical sighting devices have parallax to some degree. Some are insignificant enough to be refered to as no parallax.The optical devices that have the least amount of parallax are holographic sights like the Bushnell Holo or the EOTech and the double lens Aimpoint.
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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by Carnivorous » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:39 am

Once you hunt with quality optics you can't go back to mediocre glass. :)

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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by racking up points » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:40 am

I have never seen a crossbow scope that came in a kit that was of great quality. Are they suitable for 90% of consumers, absolutely. Most manufacturers use cheap Chinese suppliers. That's why I upgraded to Leupold scopes and I'll never look back. I'm not that 90%.

I also don't ascribe to the beleief that "we pay sooooo much money for these bows that they should come with great optics." You get what you pay for. My only beef is that they MAKE every customer pay for their crap accessories when you buy a new Excalibur, there should be a bare bow option like there used to be.
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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by longbow joe » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:50 am

Same goes for rifle packages ...remington and savage take a pretty good rifle and put a 60 dollar scope on it ....comes down to price $ price $
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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by ko4nrbs » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:47 pm

I believe the best advice is to put the best scope you can afford on your crossbow and then practice a lot. If and when funds become available then seriously consider a scope upgrade if needed.
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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by sproulman » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:00 pm

Boo wrote:Sproul, i think you mean that the scope does have parallax. Parallax is what could put a shot off at longer distances with higher magnification scopes if your eye is not centered in the rear eye piece. All optical sighting devices have parallax to some degree. Some are insignificant enough to be refered to as no parallax.The optical devices that have the least amount of parallax are holographic sights like the Bushnell Holo or the EOTech and the double lens Aimpoint.
Did not knowthat..I thought if you look into scope like TACT -ZONE and your eye is off center and hairs move that means no parallax?TZ if your eye is not in center against the cheekpiece you will shoot off.

I can take my luepold hunting scope and look into it off center and it still shoots in same spot but not my TZ scope..
You can see hairs move a lot in TZ scope...

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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by Boo » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:48 pm

The crosshairs can appear to move when it does not acutally move. If it does at short range, turn the focus ring one way or the other or move the scope further or closer to your eye.. The best way I know how to focus is point your crosshairs is to point towards the sky and do not look for more than a second or three.
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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by paulaboutform » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:58 pm

Keep in mind that the folks on this forum, for the most part, are the diehard crossbow shooters that shoot a lot for fun and practice. I believe the majority of shooters out there will shoot one or two arrows to confirm zero then just to shoot their deer. After that the bows are put away again. The truth is the factory scopes work fine and many love them. If you plan to just use this tool to kill your deer this scope is fine. If you like to spend time shooting then you may enjoy a higher quality scope more, just like you would on a rifle.

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Re: excalibur scopes

Post by Limbs and Sticks » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:06 pm

excel scopes work they have proven that, however you can't beat quality I take the may fail factor out by using good glass, Burris is my go to on all my toys.
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